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All of the religions of the world lead to nowhere but hell. For example, Protestantism, Evangelicalism, Catholicism, . . . . (atruechurch.info)
Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved. (Act 4:12)
If the Bible didn’t say anything about God creating the world, would you believe God created the world?
The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, They have done abominable works, There is none who does good. The LORD looks down from heaven upon the children of men, To see if there are any who understand, who seek God. They have all turned aside, They have together become corrupt; There is none who does good, no, not one. (Psalm 14:1-3)
the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you (Romans 2:24).
The priests did not say,`Where is the LORD?' And those who handle the law did not know Me (Jeremiah 2:8).
You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. (James 2:24)for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified (Romans 2:13).
grafh,
• grafh,, h/j, h` : gener. that which is written: ‘writing’.
1. a brief piece of writing, writing (g.=piece of writing: Diod. S. 1, 91, 3 price-list; Maximus Tyr. 16, 1b indictment; GDI 4689, 49 and 58 [Messenia]; PHib 78, 18; 1 Ch 28:19; 1 Macc 14:27; Tat. 38, 1) Hv 2, 2, 1.
2. sacred scripture, in the NT exclusively so
a. h` g. individual scripture passage (4 Macc 18:14; Philo, Rer. Div. Her. 266; Just., D. 65, 2 al.; Mel., P. 1, 3.—S. also TestNapht 5:8 grafh. a`gi,a of a written word of a divine sort outside the Bible) Mk 12:10; 15:28 v.l.; Lk 4:21; J 13:18; 19:24, 36f; Ac 1:16; 8:35; Ro 11:2; 2 Ti 3:16; Js 2:8, 23; 1 Cl 23:3.
b. scripture in its entirety
a. the pl. ai` grafai, designates collectively all the parts of Scripture: the scriptures (Philo, Fug. 4, Spec. Leg. 1, 214 ai` i`erai. g.; Rer. Div. Her. 106; 159; Jos., C. Ap. 2, 45 t. tw/n i`erw/n grafw/n bi,bloij; Just., D. 68, 8; 137, 3 al.; Did., Gen. 70, 13: qei,ai g.) Mt 21:42; 22:29; 26:54; Mk 12:24; 14:49; Lk 24:27, 32, 45; J 5:39; Ac 17:2, 11; 18:24, 28; Ro 15:4; 2 Pt 3:16; PtK 2 p. 15, 4; ai` g. tw/n profhtw/n the writings of the prophets Mt 26:56 (cp. ai` tw/n profhtw/n tou/ qeou/ kai. tw/n avposto,lwn tou/ VIhsou/ g. Orig. C. Cels. 5, 5, 10). ai` i`erai. g. 1 Cl 45:2; 53:1 (s. Philo and Joseph. above); g. a[giai Ro 1:2 (Just., D. 55, 3); profhtikai, 16:26 (Just., D. 85, 5 g. profhtikw/n; on the absence of the art. in both Ro passages and 2 Pt 1:20 [b next] s. gra,mma 2c).
b. the sg. as designation of Scripture as a whole (Philo, Mos. 2, 84; EpArist 155; 168; cp. 1 Ch 15:15; 2 Ch 30:5, 18; Just., Mel; h` qei,a g. Theoph. Ant. 2, 10 [p. 122, 33]; Did., Gen. 71, 15) Ac 8:32; J 20:9; 2 Pt 1:20 (s. ba above); ei=pen h` g. J 7:38, 42; le,gei Ro 4:3; 9:17; 10:11; Gal 4:30; 1 Ti 5:18; Js 4:5; 1 Cl 23:5; 34:6; 35:7; 42:5; 2 Cl 2:4; 6:8; 14:1f; B 4:7, 11; 5:4; 6:12; 13:2, also 16:5 in a quot. fr. En 89:56ff (Just., D. 123, 1 al.); perie,cei evn g. 1 Pt 2:6; peplh,rwtai, evplhrw,qh h` g. J 17:12; cp. 19:28 v.l.; pisteu,ein th/| g. J 2:22; ouv du,natai luqh/nai h` g. scripture cannot be set aside 10:35. W. Scripture personified: proi?dou/sa h` g. scripture foresaw Gal 3:8. sune,kleisen u`po. a`marti,an vs. 22.—kata. th.n g. (w. ref. to a contract CPR I, 224, 6 [Dssm., NB 78=BS 112f]; PAmh 43, 13; 2 Ch 30:5; 35:4; 1 Esdr 1:4) Js 2:8; kata. ta.j g. (BGU 136, 10 kata. g. w. ref. to the laws) according to (the prophecy of) the holy scriptures 1 Cor 15:3f (Just., D. 82, 4) a;ter grafh/j without scriptural proof PtK 4 p. 16, 6.—JHänel, D. Schriftbegriff Jesu 1919, 13ff; Harnack, D. AT in d. paul. Briefen u. in d. paul. Gemeinden: SBBerlAk 1928, 124-41; OMichel, Pls u. s. Bibel 1929; HvanCampenhausen, D. Entstehung d. christl. Bibel ’68. S. no,moj, end.
Indignation has taken hold of me because of the wicked, who forsake Your law. (Psalm 119:53)
He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures (1 Corinthians 15:4).
Jesus answered and said to them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." Then the Jews said, "It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?" But He was speaking of the temple of His body. Therefore, when He had risen from the dead, His disciples remembered that He had said this to them; and they believed the Scripture and the word which Jesus had said. (John 2:19-22)
Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed. And in Your book they all were written, the days fashioned for me, when as yet there were none of them. (Psalm 139:16)
Now, regarding 1 Cor 15:4, I hope you are not trying to imply that the scriptures here are referring to the passion, death, and resurrection narratives of the gospels that everyone knows were written after Paul wrote 1 Corinthians.
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1 Cor 15:4 cannot be a reference to John. They are decades apart.
Paul is referring here to the fact that he "rose" on the third day according the Scriptures (Ps 16), which is exactly how Peter uses the psalm in Acts 2.
the only reason anyone knows the Bible is true and heeds the Word of God is because God has given them understanding (Proverbs 2; Ephesians 2:1-10).
what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. (Romans 1:19; see also John 1:9)
The Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church have been in a state of official schism from one another since the events of 1054. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Orthodox_%E2%80%93_Roman_Catholic_theological_differences)
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, . . . .(Mat 28:19)Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.” (Acts 2:38)
Since, however, it would be very tedious, in such a volume as this, to reckon up the successions of all the Churches, we do put to confusion all those who, in whatever manner, whether by evil self-pleasing, by vainglory, or by blindness and perverse opinion, assemble in unauthorized meetings; [we do this, I say,] by indicating that tradition derived from the apostles, of the very great, the very ancient, and universally known Church founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul; as also [by pointing out] the faith preached to men, which comes down to our time by means of the successions of the bishops. For it is a matter of necessity that every Church should agree with this Church, on account of its preeminent authority, . . . (The Ante Nicene Fathers, vol. I, book III, chap. III)
Your Church agrees with this Church, the Roman Catholic Church? Why then are you not Roman Catholic? Not being Roman Catholic is not an agreement, as Irenaeus well illustrates. Soon after this quote, Irenaeus lists off the bishops (Popes) of the Church of Rome, and the first sentence in the title of his next chapter is,
CHAP. IV. - THE TRUTH IS T0 BE FOUND NOWHERE ELSE BUT IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, THE SOLE DEPOSITORY OF APOSTOLIC DOCTRINE.
The Didache
"After the foregoing instructions, baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, in living [running] water. If you have no living water, then baptize in other water, and if you are not able in cold, then in warm. If you have neither, pour water three times on the head, in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Before baptism, let the one baptizing and the one to be baptized fast, as also any others who are able. Command the one who is to be baptized to fast beforehand for one or two days" (Didache 7:1 [A.D. 70]).
Tatian the Syrian
"Then said Jesus unto them, ‘I have been given all authority in heaven and earth; and as my Father has sent me, so I also send you. Go now into all the world, and preach my gospel in all the creation; and teach all the peoples, and baptize them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit; and teach them to keep all whatsoever I commanded you: and lo, I am with you all the days, unto the end of the world’ [Matt. 28:18-20]" (The Diatesseron 55 [A.D. 170]).
Hippolytus
"When the one being baptized goes down into the water, the one baptizing him shall put his hand on him and speak thus: ‘Do you believe in God, the Father Almighty?’ And he that is being baptized shall say: ‘I believe.’ Then, having his hand imposed upon the head of the one to be baptized, he shall baptize him once. Then he shall say: ‘Do you believe in Christ Jesus . . . ?’ And when he says: ‘I believe,’ he is baptized again. Again shall he say: ‘Do you believe in the Holy Spirit and the holy Church and the resurrection of the flesh?’ The one being baptized then says: ‘I believe.’ And so he is baptized a third time" (The Apostolic Tradition 21 [A.D. 215]).
Tertullian
"After his resurrection he promises in a pledge to his disciples that he will send them the promise of his Father; and lastly, he commands them to baptize into the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost, not into a unipersonal God. And indeed it is not once only, but three times, that we are immersed into the three persons, at each several mention of their names" (Against Praxeas 26 [A.D. 216]).
Origen
"The Lord himself told his disciples that they should baptize all peoples in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit . . . for indeed, legitimate baptism is had only in the name of the Trinity" (Commentary on Romans 5:8 [A.D. 248]).
The Acts of Xantippe and Polyxena
"Then Probus . . . leapt into the water, saying, ‘Jesus Christ, Son of God, and everlasting God, let all my sins be taken away by this water.’ And Paul said, ‘We baptize thee in the name of the Father and Son and Holy Ghost.’ After this he made him to receive the Eucharist of Christ" (Acts of Xantippe and Polyxena 21 [A.D. 250]).
Cyprian of Carthage
"He [Jesus] commanded them to baptize the Gentiles in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. How then do some say that though a Gentile be baptized . . . never mind how or of whom, so long as it be done in the name of Jesus Christ, the remission of sins can follow—when Christ himself commands the nations to be baptized in the full and united Trinity?" (Letters 73:18 [A.D. 253]).
Eusebius of Caesarea
"We believe . . . each of these to be and to exist: the Father, truly Father, and the Son, truly Son, and the Holy Ghost, truly Holy Ghost, as also our Lord, sending forth his disciples for the preaching, said, ‘Go teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.’ Concerning whom we confidently affirm that so we hold, and so we think, and so we have held aforetime, and we maintain this faith unto the death, anathematizing every godless heresy" (Letter to the People of His Diocese 3 [A.D. 323]).
Cyril of Jerusalem
"You were led by the hand to the holy pool of divine baptism, as Christ was carried from the cross to this sepulcher here before us [the tomb of Jesus at Jerusalem]. And each of you was asked if he believed in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. And you confessed that saving confession, and descended three times into the water, and again ascended, and in this there was suggested by a symbol the three days of Christ’s burial" (Catechetical Lectures 20:4 [A.D. 350]).
Athanasius
"And the whole faith is summed up, and secured in this, that a Trinity should ever be preserved, as we read in the Gospel, ‘Go ye and baptize all the nations in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost’ (Matt. 28:19). And entire and perfect is the number of the Trinity (On the Councils of Arminum and Seleucia 2:28 [A.D. 361]).
Basil the Great
"The Holy Spirit, too, is numbered with the Father and the Son, because he is above creation, and is ranked as we are taught by the words of the Lord in the Gospel, ‘Go and baptize in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.’ He who, on the contrary, places the Spirit before the Son, or alleges him to be older than the Father, resists the ordinance of God, and is a stranger to the sound faith, since he fails to preserve the form of doxology which he has received, but adopts some newfangled device in order to be pleasing to men" (Letters 52:4 [A.D. 367]).
Ambrose of Milan
"Moreover, Christ himself says: ‘I and the Father are one.’ ‘One,’ said he, that there be no separation of power and nature; but again, ‘We are,’ that you may recognize Father and Son, forasmuch as the perfect Father is believed to have begotten the perfect Son, and the Father and the Son are one, not by confusion of person, but by unity of nature. We say, then, that there is one God, not two or three gods" (The Faith 1:1[9–10] [A.D. 379]).
Gregory of Nazianz
"But not yet perhaps is there formed upon your soul any writing good or bad; and you want to be written upon today. . . . I will baptize you and make you a disciple in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost; and these three have one common name, the Godhead. And you shall know, both by appearances and by words that you reject all ungodliness, and are united to all the Godhead" (Orations 40:45 [A.D. 380]).
Jerome
"[S]eeing that a man, baptized in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost, becomes a temple of the Lord, and that while the old abode is destroyed a new shrine is built for the Trinity, how can you say that sins can be remitted among the Arians without the coming of the Holy Ghost? How is a soul purged from its former stains which has not the Holy Ghost?" (Dialogue Against the Luciferians 6 [A.D. 382]).
Gregory of Nyssa
"And we, in receiving baptism . . . conceal ourselves in [the water] as the Savior did in the earth: and by doing this thrice we represent for ourselves that grace of the resurrection which was wrought in three days. And this we do, not receiving the sacrament in silence, but while there are spoken over us the names of the three sacred persons on whom we believed, in whom we also hope, from whom comes to us both the fact of our present and the fact of our future existence" (Sermon For the Day of Lights [A.D. 383]).
Augustine
"Baptism in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost has Christ for its authority, not any man, whoever he may be; and Christ is the truth, not any man" (On Baptism, Against the Donatists 4:24 [57] [A.D. 400]).
"O Lord our God, we believe in you, the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. For the truth would not say, ‘Go, baptize all nations in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,’ unless you were a Trinity" (The Trinity 15:28[51] [A.D. 408]).
Theodoret of Cyr
"And what need is there of many words, when it is possible to refute falsehood in few? We provide that those who year by year come up for holy baptism should carefully learn the faith set forth at Nicaea by the holy and blessed Fathers; and initiating them as we have been bidden, we baptize them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, pronouncing each name singly" (Letters 145 [A.D. 444]).
when Gods caused me to wander from my father's house, . . . (plural noun, plural verb).
And he built there an altar and called the place, "God, the house of God," because there the Gods were revealed to him in his fleeing from the face of his brother. (plural noun, plural verb)
This decision is by the decree of the watchers, and the sentence by the word of the holy ones, . . . . (Daniel 4:17)That they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field, and they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and they shall wet thee with the dew of heaven, and seven times shall pass over thee, till thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will. And whereas they commanded to leave the stump of the tree roots; thy kingdom shall be sure unto thee, after that thou shalt have known that the heavens do rule. (Daniel 4:25-26 KJV)
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I learned some valuable information regarding some of the errors of John McArthur's teaching so thank you for the site.
I was more than a little startled, considering how reasonable everything else on the site was, to see your position regarding suicide and the believer.
Frankly, I was also a bit sad. It seems to me for you to hold the position that everyone who has committed suicide has forfeited heaven undermines the Biblical teaching of salvation by faith, through grace ALONE. Your position in no way differs from McArthur's "Lordship Salvation" in that what you have ultimately is a salvation of "works" and not "faith". The Scriptures you cited to support your position confirms in my mind that you do not hold to the doctrine of salvation by faith through grace alone, and that it is the believer's responsibility to not only receive salvation, but also to preserve it. I believe God when he says not one can pluck His sheep out of his hand and that your position would make God a liar, even if that hand happened to be one of his own children suffering from deep depression. May God bless you in your ministry.
In Christ,
Verne
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. (1 Corinthians 6:9-10)
For this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. (Ephesians 5:5)
For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace. (Romans 6:14)
Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one's slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness? (Rom 6:16)But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life. (Romans 6:22)
You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. (James 2:24)
faith without works is dead (James 2:26).
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them. (Ephesians 2:8-10)
For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. (Rev 22:15 KJV)
Thanks for the reply and the Scriptures.
I want to say to you in the love of Christ that what I detect in your disposition is remarkably harsh spirit to those of God's children, who because of weakness of faith, falling into the snare of the devil, or discouragement in their walk, may by their actions not adorn the doctrine of Christ. I certainly do not want to enter into any kind of strife with you over this matter, but I see a startling lack of GRACE in your statements. We can of course agree to disagree. No less an eminent scholar than Martin Lloyd Jones contended that Romans 7 was not speaking of the experience of the Apostle Paul after his regeneration. I suspect that would also be your position. Equally Godly scholars as well as I, disagree with him.
I am glad that we agree that just because someone takes his own life, that does not mean he forfeits eternal life if that person had placed his faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. God alone knows the state of the human heart, and who are truly His. Is is the very height of arrogance for any mortal to presume to be able to do that which angels cannot; namely, distinguish wheat from tares with absolute certitude. I for one, on reading the Old testament would never had judged Lot a righteous man. I would have bee wrong.
In Christ,
Verne
PS My comments are made in view of a deep understanding of the medical condition of depression, and how over the years even the very Godliest of saints have suffered from its ravages.
Let the righteous strike me; It shall be a kindness. And let him rebuke me; It shall be as excellent oil; Let my head not refuse it. (Psalm 141:5)
Open rebuke is better than love carefully concealed. Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful. (Pro 27:5-6)
God alone knows the state of the human heart, and who are truly His.
is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. (John 15:6)
Is is the very height of arrogance for any mortal to presume to be able to do that which angels cannot; namely, distinguish wheat from tares with absolute certitude.
So the servants of the owner came and said to him, “Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?” (Matthew 13:27)
You will keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on You, because he trusts in You. (Isaiah 26:3)
I am certainly glad I have thick skin. I stopped counting the number of accusations you have made after five or so.
You are certainly right about one thing, and that is that heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked.
That goes for both your heart, and mine. Unless you have of course already obtained sinless perfection. Have you?
It would do us well to maintain a posture of humility when dealing with holy things.
The Master gave a very specific reason for why the tares were not to be uprooted by the servants despite their zeal to do so. If you understood the instructions He gave, and you should as his instructions and reasons were explicit. you would have perceived what I was trying to alert you to.
Verne
. . . lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. (Matthew 13:29)
It was not intention to imply that the servants were proud or arrogant. It was my intention to point out the narrative should have been a cautionary note to all of us against presumption. The text tells us that the separation would take place at the harvest by the reapers, who are identified as angels. We are not specifically told in the text who the servants are. We are told that they were prohibited from trying to separate forcibly the wheat from the tares. While it is true that one could assume the Master was concerned about collateral damage as the tares were being removed, a careful exegesis of the text suggests another reason, and that is the potential for mis-identification. If this is the case, the implication is clearly that the servants, whoever they were, would not necessarily be able to distinguish the two in every case. It is possible, but speculative I admit, that this could have been a skill that the reapers possessed that other servants did not, or perhaps that it would not be entirely obvious to observers until the time of the harvest. We can harbor an opinion about someone's spiritual state I agree by looking at the fruit their life is producing. Remember the thief on the cross. By your standards there should have been no hope for him. He had lived a wretched life. You should be much more careful about the way you throw around the Holy Scriptures and seek to find close application to both the person addressed, and the topic at hand. I can see why we believers are so often despised by the lost because of this kind of blunt force trauma we employ to try and make a point. Neither you nor I can be absolutely certain about whose name is written in the Lamb's book of life. To act, and speak in such as way as to convey to anyone that we are in possession of that knowledge is what I consider to be the very height of arrogance and pride.
Verne
note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. (Romans 16:17)
For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple. (Romans 16:18)
No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. (Matthew 6:24)
Not everyone who says to Me, “Lord, Lord,” shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, “Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?” And then I will declare to them, “I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!” (Matthew 7:21-23)
. . . help these women who labored with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the Book of Life. (Philippians 4:3)
He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. (1 John 2:4)Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. (2 John 1:9; etc.)
O LORD, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived: thou art stronger than I, and hast prevailed: I am in derision daily, every one mocketh me. (Jer 20:7 KJV)
And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel. (Ezekiel 14:9 KJV)
The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil. (Pro 16:4 KJV)God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all. (Romans 11:32)For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to whom be glory forever. Amen. (Romans 11:36)
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