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From: "Brenton Butler" brenton@simplybathrooms.com.au
To: feedback@atruechurch.info
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 6:24 AM
Subject: Hi Darwin
Hi Darwin Fish
Found your website on the net. Very interesting and radical. Good that you stand up for what you believe in. Not to up to speed with the true church. I was actually thinking this morning what I would to have to hang onto on my death bed. In my mind the most basic of answers came back. I thought in the most humbling way the only hope I have if any is Jesus Christ. Keep up your efforts.
Brenton Butler
From: "Darwin" darwin@atruechurch.info
To: "Brenton Butler" brenton@simplybathrooms.com.au
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: Hi Darwin
Which Jesus Christ? The Jesus Christ of false Christianity (www.atruechurch.info/savednot.html)? Or, the Jesus Christ who is Holy Gods (www.atruechurch.info/heisholygods.html), who both loves and hates people (John 3:16/Psalm 5:5-6; Romans 9:13; etc.), kills people (Deuteronomy 32:39; Revelation 2:23; etc.), destines the majority of mankind to hell (Matthew 7:13-14; Romans 9:11-22; etc.), deceives people (Ezekiel 14:9 KJV; etc), causes people to sin (Isaiah 45:7 KJV; 2 Samuel 12:11-12; 24:1; etc.), and spoke parables so people would NOT get saved (Mark 4:11-12; John 12:37-40; etc.); etc. There's no hope in the former.
From: Joseph Carbury
To: feedback@atruechurch.info
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:32 PM
Subject: Mike DeSario?
http://www.standingthegap.org/
this is his web page. i hope its true to the word.
if not let me know please.
you have more knowledge than me as of right now, so you can tell for sure.
thank you so much for fighting the good fight.
-Joseph
From: Darwin
To: Joseph Carbury
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: Mike DeSario?
They are false. They reject Psalm 58:3; Proverbs 16:4; Romans 5:19; 11:32, 36; Galatians 3:22. They do not believe people are born sinners (see bottom of home page).
The very first sentence at www.standingthegap.org/Woe%20Unto%20the%20Pastors.htm reads,
"There isn’t a Pastor alive today anywhere who would say anything that may upset the people in the Churches or make them feel uncomfortable or Convicted of any wrong doing."
That is a very foolish statement. He would have to be God to know that.
At this page www.standingthegap.org/gospel.htm he explicitly denies 2 Corinthians 5:21. He writes,
"Christ’s Death was a Sin Offering. (2Cor5:21) (He did not become sin!)"
He also rejects Romans 9:11-23 (etc.) by writing,
"God’s Absolute Foreknowledge of events DOES NOT Pre-Determine the Outcome of those events. WHY? Because man has FREE WILL to Choose between Good and Evil of his own accord. Thus Un-Conditional Election and Pre-destination, as taught by many, is another Major Fallacy that Destroys the Gospel Message. Individuals are NOT Elect or Non-Elect as Predetermined by God." (http://www.standingthegap.org/gospel.htm)
From: jude948@aol.com
To: feedback@atruechurch.info
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 7:42 PM
You sir, are a fool.
From: Darwin
To: jude948@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:19 PM
Yes, and so are you (Psalm 14:1-3).
From: jude948@aol.com
To: darwin@atruechurch.info
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 2:08 PM
I'm glad you agree.
From: Darwin
To: jude948@aol.com
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 3:26 PM
So am I.
From: In Him [stevedarcats@yahoo.com]
To: feedback@atruechurch.info
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 7:02 PM
Subject: Rick Warren.....
To whom it may concern at True Church,
I have been reading what you wrote about Rick Warren's book "The purpose driven life." You commented on what Rick Warren said related to the subject of fearing the Lord. I believe that you misinterpreted what he meant. This teaching on fear of the Lord might help you to understand where he is coming from.
You also criticized Rick Warren for expressing the importance of receiving help through others when one is having trouble with a tough addiction etc. If you listen or read what Pastor Warren is saying in context then I would think you should have a different take.
I have seen repeatedly that many Christians have a tendency to take other Christians out of context not seeing the full picture of what is meant. I have been watching Rick's videos that go along with his book. Rick Warren emphasizes that importance of belonging to the body of Christ. We do need each other as believers. We are told as believers not to forsake the gathering of ourselves together for a reason. God's anoints Believers to encourage and minister to one and another. It seems apparent that you are incorrect if you believe that Rick Warren is saying that people or programs are the way of salvation and not Jesus Christ. God works through spirit lead believers. Anointed, spirit filled believers encourage each other to believe and rely on the word of God for deliverance that comes only through faith Jesus Christ. I have not heard Pastor Rich say anything contray to this. Please be careful about making judgments about other believers. You may not see what you think you see! You will be held accountable for the harm you bring to others through false judgment.
DN
[This writer sent a copy of an article by Rosemarie Scott entitled, "THE FEAR OF THE LORD" which can be found at the Catholic website http://home.earthlink.net/~mysticalrose/fear.html, copy on file.]
From: Darwin
To: In Him
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: Rick Warren.....
"You will be held accountable for the harm you bring to others through false judgment."
Amen! And so will you. This is why we write what we do (Hebrews 4:12-13).
In the article you sent, it says,
"The original Hebrew word is pachad, which always indicates a terrified dread."
Amen! This same Hebrew word is used in Proverbs 28:14 where Solomon says, "Happy is the man who is always dreading" which describes a man who is not a "an unrepentant sinner," but rather a blessed believing terrified dreading man. It is also found in Psalm 119:120 where the holy man of God moved by the Holy Spirit (2 Peter 1:21) wrote, "My flesh trembles dreading You." This same Psalmist also uses this same Hebrew word in the same Psalm (vs. 161) where he writes, "My heart dreads Your word." Job used this same word when he said, "I dread Him" (Job 23:15).
Pachad is also found in Psalm 36:1 where it says of the unrepentant sinner (the wicked), "There is no dread of God before his eyes." Not dreading God is a sin and a characteristic of the wicked! The Lord condemned the Israelites using pachad saying, "You have forsaken the Lord your God, and My dread is not in you." His dread should be in us always, as Proverbs 28:14 reveals.
The second Hebrew word Rosemarie Scott mentions is yirah. She claims, "the Hebrew word used for this fear is yirah, which denotes piety and reverence rather than abject terror." This is another lie. This same Hebrew word is used for the fear Jacob had of his brother (Genesis 32:7) who formerly wanted to kill him (Genesis 27:41). It is used for the fear Jacob's sons had of their brother Joseph (Genesis 43:18). It is used of the fear the Israelites had of the Egyptians (Exodus 14:10), the fear of a soldier before a battle (Deuteronomy 20:8), the fear Saul and the Israelites had of Goliath (1 Samuel 17:11, 24), the fear David's men had of the Philistine armies (1 Samuel 23:3), the fear Saul had of the Philistine army (1 Samuel 28:5), the fear Saul's armorbearer had when Saul commanded him to take his sword and kill Saul (1 Samuel 31:4), the fear the rulers of Jezreel had of Jehu (2 Kings 10:4), the fear Jehoshaphat had of the massive army that came against him (2 Chronicles 20:3), the fear Nehemiah had of king Artaxerxes (Nehemiah 2:2), the fear Urijah had when King Jehoiakim sought to kill him (Jeremiah 26:21), the fear had at the roaring of a lion (Amos 3:8), the fear the mariners had in the midst of the storm (Jonah 1:5, 10), etc.. This word undeniably means "fear," i.e. to be afraid.
God will indeed judge by His word (Hebrews 4:12-13) and condemn to hell all who heed it not (Revelation 21:8 "unbelieving").
From: "The GateKeeper Ministry" info@thegatekeeperministry.com
To: feedback@atruechurch.info
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 7:03 PM
Subject: Greetings from Ireland THE GATEKEEPER MINISTRY James Warnock
Dear Darwin,
This is James Warnock founder of The GateKeeper Ministry. I was speaking with you earlier over the phone. As you have requested me, here is our website url: http://www.thegatekeeperministry.com
I would be delighted if you get the time to take a look at our ministry website and let me know if you find fault(s) that I can correct immediately by God's grace.
As I said to you earlier, I am very serious about what I spoke to you and VERY concerned teach others something that is wrong or contrary to God's word.
I have removed the Paypal links and Donations page from our site and now by His grace and faith I rely on the provision of God through Christ. I spoke to brother Mick shortly after (that is the guy from Brisbane) and put Proverbs 16:4 to him and he accused me of Calvinism and said that I am saying (even though I kept repeating to him that NO, I am only reading this from God's word), he then quoted from God's word that God wishes that every man be saved and continued to say that God must then be confused or contradicting Himself? I was unable to answer this Darwin but I held him to proverbs 16:4 and he could not answer me and hung up on me. Why?
He teaches Lordship salvation - what is your opinion on this?
Can I also ask your opinion on Baptism and as we already have on our website many teachings against the use of "speaking in tongues" and Mick is also very much against this practise.
He condems those who teach Eternal Security and then I read your article which I have now made a pdf from and have it available on our site.
There are some other things also but I do not want to trouble you so much now but seek your opinion on what I have just said.
Mick's website is: http://www.christianissues.biz if you wish to take a look at it also. It has quite a large following according to brother Mick.
Thank you Darwin for your efforts and help, I really appreciate this.
I will look forward to hearing from you in due course.
Take care,
James.
From: "Darwin" darwin@atruechurch.info
To: "The GateKeeper Ministry" info@thegatekeeperministry.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 1:40 AM
Subject: Re: Greetings from Ireland THE GATEKEEPER MINISTRY James Warnock
"I was unable to answer this Darwin but I held him to proverbs 16:4 and he could not answer me and hung up on me. Why?"
Because he is an imposter (2 Timothy 3:13), and one who turns the grace of God into lewdness (Jude 4). You are exposing his rejection of God's word and hypocrisy via the word of God.
The answer to the "contradicting Himself" is found in Provers 3:5-6. Both are true, because God says it. Whatever God says is true. It only contradicts in the mind of man. God is greater and His Truth reaches to the clouds (Psalm 108:4) and is eternal (John 1:1) and infinite (Psalm 147:5).
Lordship salvation? This is the same issue we discussed on the phone (that is, those who think you don't have to submit to the Lordship of Christ) - the power of godliness (2 Timothy 3:5), turning the grace of God into lewdness (Jude 4), and denying a whole host of Scripture (e.g. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Galatians 5:19-21; Ephesians 5:5; Revelation 21:8; etc.). If a person does not confess the Lord Jesus (Romans 10:9) they are still evil seeking only rebellion (Proverbs 17:11). If they are not in submission to Christ, they are still lost in their sin and will certainly perish as "unbelieving" in the lake of fire (Revelation 21:8).
Baptism is commanded in Acts 2:38 (see also Matthew 28:19-20; Mark 16:16; etc.). I mention a bit more on baptism below.
For just a few examples of Mick's falsehood: At www.christianissues.biz/thepowerofsin.html Mick turns the grace of God into lewdness and depicts someone without self-control can actually know Jesus at the same time. That turns the grace of God into lewdness, denies Galatians 5:22-24, and denies the power of godliness (2 Timothy 3:5).
At www.christianissues.biz/religion.html Mick writes,
"Religion is simply man-made efforts to get right with God."
That is a lie, a false gospel, and a rejection of Romans 3:11 ("none who seeks after God"). It denies the very beginning of Paul's gospel in Romans 1:18-32. Romans 1 teaches the reason man-made religion exists is because men reject the real God.
At www.christianissues.biz/freebooks.html Mick promotes false teachers who were on the broad way we describe at www.atruechurch.info/savednot.html, A. W. Tozer and E. M. Bounds. Bounds was a Methodist which is a false free will gospel denomination started by John Wesley. These men are presently in hell.
At www.christianissues.biz/romancatholicism.html Mick writes,
"I'm sure there are saved individuals attending Catholic churches but their salvation is in spite of RCC doctrine and not because of it."
This denies John 10:5; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ("idolaters"); etc..
At www.christianissues.biz/ecumenism.html he promotes the false teacher Charles Spurgeon (www.atruechurch.info/spurgeon.html) and he speaks of ideal ecumenism with these words,
"Ideally, Ecumenism would be interdenominational Christian unity of fundamental Bible beliefs."
Biblically, there is no such thing as ideal ecumenism. That's like saying, "Ideal evil."
At www.christianissues.biz/sin.html he writes,
"There are no big sins or small sins."
This is a lie. There is the unforgivable sin (Matthew 12:32), the sin unto death and the sin not unto death (1 John 5:16), "greater sin" (John 19:11), etc.. Read the law of Moses. God administered justice according to the sin and it is not all the same.
Now, your website:
It's evident you have been caught in false Christianity, because you promote it. I see you promote some of Mick's folly (e.g. Religion). In your statement of faith you write about God, "NOT three gods". Scripture nowhere says that and it is against the word of God. I suggest you read www.atruechurch.info/heisholygods.html.
Also, on your statement of faith you write of Christ, "He added human nature to His divine nature." That is a definition of a false Christ. "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever" (Hebrews 13:8). "For in Him dwells all the fulness of the Godhead bodliy" (Colossians 2:9), and this has always been the case (Hebrews 13:8). As it is written of Him, He is "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" (Revelation 13:8). He has always been in the flesh and slain (Hebrews 13:8).
Moreover, you also wrote of Christ,
"He is both human and divine, and, therefore, has two natures."
And,
"He is presently a man, one person, with two natures where one nature is wholly God and the other wholly man. (Phil. 2:5-11; Col. 2:9; 1 Tim. 3:16; Heb 1:5-13, John 1: 1-3,14)."
Where does the Bible teach He has two natures? Nowhere. None of the passages you give teach that. You have added this concept to the word of God (Proverbs 30:5-6).
You also wrote of Christ,
"Yet, He is one person, not two."
The Bible nowhere teaches that (Proverbs 30:5-6), but actually teaches the opposite. See John 8:17-18; 14:7-11. You may want to see not only the "He is Holy Gods" article (particularly the last point), but also The Lord Is A Man (www.atruechurch.info/lordisaman.html).
You write of baptism,
"It is not necessary for salvation."
It is as necessary as Matthew 4:4.
You also wrote,
"The act of water baptism does not save anyone."
That denies the explicit words of Acts 2:38, "for the remission of sins." 1 Peter 3:21 gives clarification, but nonetheless such a statement as stated is not true.
You wrote in your statement,
"There is NO true earthly ecclesiastical body 'that is the true church.'"
Scripture nowhere teaches this concept. Any true church is a true church.
Under "Morality" in your statement of faith you write,
"we do not hate those who practise these things but pray for their deliverance."
If this is true, then you are lost and without the fear of the Lord (Romans 3:18). "The fear of the Lord is to hate evil" (Proverbs 8:13), and the people listed are evil. David said,
"Do I not hate them, O Lord, who hate You? And do I not loathe those who rise up against You? I hate them with perfect hatred; I count them my enemies" (Psalm 139:21-22; see also Psalm 15:4; 31:6; 119:113).
Under "Living" you write,
"Christians are free to defend themselves (Luke 22:36)"
That's not what Luke 22:36 says nor teaches. Jesus did not reject His own words in Luke 6:29 and Matthew 5:39. Furthermore, James 5:6 reveals the righteous "does not resist" even unto death.
In your statement you wrote,
"Within Christianity there is room for the interpretation of the six creation days (Gen. 1:1-31) and including the seventh day God rested - to be literal seven 24 hour periods but also longer periods."
These words reveal you do not believe Scripture and have not found the way of truth (mentioned e.g. in 2 Peter 2:2). These words reject John 14:6 and promote the broad way (Matthew 7:13-14). For more, see the first point at www.atruechurch.info/savednot.html. Genesis one is not unclear. It is only unclear to those who don't believe it. See also Exodus 20:11.
Under "Accepting the Sinner" you reveal again you have not yet "received the love of the truth that [you] might be saved" (2 Thessalonians 2:10). You write,
"We have intentionally omitted any statements regarding areas of legitimate disagreement (i.e., rapture, predestination, end times) on which agreement is not essential for salvation."
That is a damning lie. Again, see the "You Think You're Saved, But You're Not!" article.
You wrote under "Accepting the Sinner,"
"We believe that no sin is too big for God to forgive."
That's a rejection of Matthew 12:32; Hebrews 6:4-8; 10:26-31; Proverbs 1:24-29; 29:1.
Finally, you reference www.seefrance.net. They are in the same false Christianity/broad way we describe at www.atruechurch.info/savednot.html
I mostly looked at your statement of faith. That is all for now. May the Lord have mercy on you and save you from the deceit of this age.
From: "The GateKeeper Ministry" info@thegatekeeperministry.com
To: "Darwin" darwin@atruechurch.info
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 7:05 AM
Subject: James Warnock Ireland.
Hi Darwin,
Many thanks for taking time to look at our ministry website. I will start working on what you have pointed out to me immediately. I will remove our statement of faith with immediate effect and will ammend it accordingly.
Thank you for what you have shown to me regarding Mick Alexancer's website Christian Issues. I have been dealing with Mick for nearly two years now and he has been a kind of mentor to me. But as I said to you, there have been things that did not rest well with me and you have confirmed them to me by God's precious grace. It has been my prayer and continues to be - the God keep me from deception and I believe He is showing me now. I am very happy and many thanks for your time.
I will wait to hear from you regarding same in due course.
James.
From: "Darwin" darwin@atruechurch.info
To: "The GateKeeper Ministry" info@thegatekeeperministry.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: Greetings from Ireland THE GATEKEEPER MINISTRY James Warnock
You still have a "Donate Bibles to Us" button. That is covetous (Hebrews 13:5). At www.thegatekeeperministry.com/index.php?p=1_23_OUR-NEWS under the video you have,
"Please help us help them. We need support toward medical supplies, food and bibles."
This too is covetous (Hebrews 13:5).
At www.thegatekeeperministry.com/index.php?p=1_33_OUR-BIBLE-WORKSHOP you write,
"no theology"
This is equal to saying, "no Jesus." Jesus is true theology. He is the Truth, the Bible, the word of God (the source of all and any true theology).
At www.thegatekeeperministry.com/index.php?p=1_10_COMING-EVENTS you write,
"True Believers Needed Urgently! Especially those of you who are led by the Holy Spirit."
Especially? This is like saying, "Live monkeys are needed, especially those with heads." "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are sons of God" (Romans 8:14). There is no such thing as "True believers" who are not led by the Holy Spirit. See Romans 8:1-9, 13-14.
At www.thegatekeeperministry.com/index.php?p=1_26_JESUS-THE-ONLY-WAY under "The Bible says" you write,
"Death in the Bible is eternal separation from God, in hell."
God is in hell (Psalm 139:8). Those in hell will be tormented in the presence of God (e.g. Revelation 14:9-11). The torment will come from His power and very person (2 Thessalonians 1:9).
On this same page you write,
"Also, everyone knows that God is Holy and Righteous and sin cannot exist in His presence."
Although Psalm 5:4-5 is true, presently sin is in God's presence. See Revelation 12:10.
At www.thegatekeeperministry.com/index.php?p=1_32_FALSE-MINISTRIES you write,
"Our brothers and sisters in Christ, we urge you to STOP honouring ministries above the call of duty and running after men with strange teaching"
You have been a brother to that type, who honour ministries and men with strange teaching. Thus, you have not been a brother of Christ (Mark 3:31-35). Those who do the will of God, that is, those who are saved (Matthew 7:21), do no such thing (John 10:5).
Two paragraphs later on this same page you mention the early church fathers in a good light. They were false teachers of the Catholic sort. See www.atruechurch.info/earlychurchfathers.html
A little later you write,
"any ministry that has endorsed any of those ministries, under women pastors or leadership (except for rare exceptional circumstances),"
So, there is a time to disobey God?
At www.thegatekeeperministry.com/index.php?p=1_37_DELIVERANCE-MINISTRY you appear to believe deliverance is something in addition to salvation, which it is not (John 8:31-36).
At www.thegatekeeperministry.com/index.php?p=1_45_The-Way-Of-Peace you have Mick's article. He writes,
"To be saved, each of us must have a personal relationship with Jesus."
Scripture does not talk like this. What is meant by "a personal relationship"? To know Him? Indeed (1 John 2:3-5). Feelings? No. We walk by faith in the Word of God (2 Corinthians 5:7), not by feelings (which are fleshly, Romans 8:7) or anything else. Yet, this is what Mick gets into in the context of "a personal relationship with Jesus" - subjective feelings of peace.
Shortly after the above he repeatedly writes,
"we lose our peace."
And he writes,
"LISTENING is simply noticing that you have no peace and asking God why He has taken your peace away."
And several paragraphs later under "PEACE IS OUR GUIDE IN ALL THINGS" he writes,
"So, as you pray about something and have peace about doing it then go ahead and do it because God always honours our prayers and give us His peace when we are doing things according to His will"
And,
"Whenever we sin (or go against His will) God takes our peace away. When we repent, God's peace returns. EVERY TIME we lose our peace, there is a problem between us and God."
This "way of peace" is a false gospel and is nowhere taught in all of holy writ (Proverbs 30:5-6). Sadly, since the curse of Proverbs 21:2 is ever true, if we relied on such a subjective feeling of peace, we would easily go on our peaceful way to hell with such "discernment." That kind of discernment rests on our own understanding (Proverbs 3:5) and not the Word of God. There is indeed peace for those who trust Him (Isaiah 26:3; Galatians 5:22), and that peace is only found within the confines of His Word (Proverbs 6:23).
On this same page, later talking about "The sanctifying work of God in our life" he writes,
"Jesus will not force us to do this."
This denies Romans 11:36; Jeremiah 10:23; Proverbs 16:9; 20:24; Isaiah 46:10; etc..
A little later he writes,
""Christians are meant to live a victorious life but I'm a defeated coward."
He was (is) not a Christian, and was a hell-bound coward ("cowards" Revelation 21:8). This section turns the grace of God into lewdness as he depicts a saved person could be caught in such wickedness and still be on their way to heaven.
A little later he writes,
"When he finished, he asked me if I wanted a turn and with my Bible in one hand and a tract in another I preached in the street and was as calm and confident as anyone could be - now THAT is the power of the Holy Spirit."
That's a lie, since it was all within false Christianity.
Finally, you have at the end of the Sabbath article,
"The GateKeeper Team.
Brother Darwin Fish."
I am not a part of The GateKeeper Team. You're team consists of false teachers/false Christians (www.thegatekeeperministry.com/index.php?p=1_3_CONTACT-US) of which I will have no part with (2 Corinthians 6:14-7:1; Ephesians 5:11; 2 Timothy 2:20-22).
From: "The GateKeeper Ministry" info@thegatekeeperministry.com
To: "Darwin" darwin@atruechurch.info
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: Greetings from Ireland THE GATEKEEPER MINISTRY James Warnock
Just in the process of removing that button now...
Thank you.
James.
From: "The GateKeeper Ministry" info@thegatekeeperministry.com
To: "Darwin" darwin@atruechurch.info
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: Greetings from Ireland THE GATEKEEPER MINISTRY James Warnock
Apologies for not quoting your name in context to the article printed. I have deleted your name from there and I was not intending for it to appear that you were part of our ministry.
Thanks,
James.
From: "Darwin" darwin@atruechurch.info
To: "The GateKeeper Ministry" info@thegatekeeperministry.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: Greetings from Ireland THE GATEKEEPER MINISTRY James Warnock
Also, at www.thegatekeeperministry.com/index.php?p=1_37_DELIVERANCE-MINISTRY you write:
"This ministry will be free once operational (as are all we offer) but to maintain our services, outreach, spread of the gospel, church planting and aid programmes we need financial support, pledging and once-off donations. If you feel led by God's Holy Spirit to give then please do!
Thank you for you interest,"
From: "The GateKeeper Ministry" info@thegatekeeperministry.com
To: "Darwin" darwin@atruechurch.info
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:45 AM
Subject: Re: Greetings from Ireland THE GATEKEEPER MINISTRY James Warnock
Thank so much Darwin,
Just read your email now - and I will remove this with immediate effect. Yes, I can see where I have gone wrong regarding these matters in relation to God's word.
I have asked God to forgive me for such and I appreciate you time regarding same.
Yours truly,
James.
From: "Darwin" darwin@atruechurch.info
To: "The GateKeeper Ministry" info@thegatekeeperministry.com
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Greetings from Ireland THE GATEKEEPER MINISTRY James Warnock
If you haven't yet, you may want to see our statement of faith. May the Lord direct you into His truth.
From: "The GateKeeper Ministry" info@thegatekeeperministry.com
To: "Darwin" darwin@atruechurch.info
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: Greetings from Ireland THE GATEKEEPER MINISTRY James Warnock
Hi Darwin,
I have been having some problems with my pc. Just getting it sorted. I am in the process of updating our site and will surely read all your statement of faith. If this is ok from you, can we use some or the wording from your statement of faith?
Thank you,
James.
From: Darwin
To: "The GateKeeper Ministry" info@thegatekeeperministry.com
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: Greetings from Ireland THE GATEKEEPER MINISTRY James Warnock
You have a pdf entitled "Today's Tongues" by the false teacher, Bryce Hartin. It says at the beginning of that pdf that he,
"is an ordained Minister of the Gospel accredited with the Baptist Union of Queensland. He has undertaken studies at the Sydney Bible Training Institute, Moody Bible Institute of Chicago, U.S.A. And Central Baptist Seminary in Toronto, Canada. He has travelled extensively, conducting crusades and speaking at conventions throughout Canada, U.S.A., India, South East Asia and the Middle East and has ministered in some of the largest churches in these countries."
There is no way that man is in the truth. He obviously is accepted by the prevailing false Christianity having "ministered in some of the largest churches" which are apostate in this present evil age (2 Timothy 3:1-5; www.atruechurch.info/savednot.html).
Also, at the end of the Christmas pdf, Unity of the Saints pdf, Marks of a Cult pdf, Identifying False Teachers pdf, Suicide pdf, Hell pdf, How Can A God of Love Send People To Hell pdf, The True Fear of God pdf, What Must I Do To Be Saved pdf, You Think You're Saved, But You're Not! pdf, Salvation Is Not By Works pdf, Eternal Security pdf, The Calvary Road pdf, The Quran pdf, The Book of Enoch pdf, The Apocrypha pdf, The Doctrine of Tongues pdf, Born Again pdf, you have, "Please support this ministry - visit: www.thegatekeeperministry.com". This is quite covetous.
Also, you have at the bottom of "The Womans Role" article,
"The GateKeeper Team.
Brother Darwiin Fish"
Also, at www.thegatekeeperministry.com/index.php?p=1_12_MEET-OUR-TEAM you write,
"Teacher Elder brother Israel Shahid Hanif "
And speaking of this same man,
"teacher Israel"
Jesus said,
"Do not call anyone on earth 'Rabbi' [that = teacher]; for One is your Teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren. . . . And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ." (Matthew 23:8, 10)
Also, as I said before, you have been caught in false Christianity. Thus, those you have been associated with and fellowshiped with are false Christians, which would include Shahid Hanif (Pakistan), Zacheus Mosett (Kenya), and those pictured at www.thegatekeeperministry.com/index.php?p=1_3_CONTACT-US.
From: "The GateKeeper Ministry" info@thegatekeeperministry.com
To: Darwin
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: Greetings from Ireland THE GATEKEEPER MINISTRY James Warnock
I will remove that immediately.
I received most of this information from Mick Alexander who I trusted which is no excuse. I am responsible for this so I will deal with it now.
Thank you,
James
From: "Darwin" darwin@atruechurch.info
To: "The GateKeeper Ministry" info@thegatekeeperministry.com
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: Greetings from Ireland THE GATEKEEPER MINISTRY James Warnock
Does Mick know about our site?
From: "The GateKeeper Ministry" info@thegatekeeperministry.com
To: "Darwin" darwin@atruechurch.info
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: Greetings from Ireland THE GATEKEEPER MINISTRY James Warnock
Yes, I introduced him to your site some time ago when I first discovered it. But he rejected your teaching as weird and false.
But my trust is God not Mick's opinion.
James.
From: "The GateKeeper Ministry" info@thegatekeeperministry.com
To: "Darwin" darwin@atruechurch.info
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: Greetings from Ireland THE GATEKEEPER MINISTRY James Warnock
I have to go out now for an hour but when I return I will continue further work on our ministry website. And once again, I really want to thank you by God's grace for taking the time to show me what you have already. I really appreciate this - more than you may know.
Thank you,
James.
From: "Darwin" darwin@atruechurch.info
To: "The GateKeeper Ministry" info@thegatekeeperministry.com
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Greetings from Ireland THE GATEKEEPER MINISTRY James Warnock
As far as we are concerned, you (or anyone else) can use our statement of faith (or anything else) and claim to believe the same. We have no problem with that.
But, what we have serious trouble with is any claim that we are in fellowship with falsehood. That we utterly reject (Psalm 119:104, 128; Proverbs 8:13; 2 Timothy 2:20-22). Thus, as long as your site has garbage on it, we want no fellowship with it or you.
For you to post an article of ours and note where you got it from, that does not equal that we are in fellowship with you. If, on the other hand, you claim in some way we are in agreement with your site, or on your team, then that is what we don't want, because of the falsehood and those you associate with.
You said, "we" in this last email. Who is "we" besides you? Also, as we have seen for several years now, have literally preached to millions of people, and as the Scriptures teach (Luke 13:24; 18:8; etc.), very very few (almost none) want the truth.
I would like to ask specifically to understand where you at, if I may. Do you see and understand that you have been caught in false Christianity and have been on your way to hell?
From: "Darwin" darwin@atruechurch.info
To: "The GateKeeper Ministry" info@thegatekeeperministry.com
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: Greetings from Ireland THE GATEKEEPER MINISTRY James Warnock
You're welcome.
[This was in response to James' December 02, 2010 11:16 AM email.]
From: "The GateKeeper Ministry" info@thegatekeeperministry.com
To: "Darwin" darwin@atruechurch.info
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: Greetings from Ireland THE GATEKEEPER MINISTRY James Warnock
Hi Darwin,
"We" was referring to our members brother, NOT you. And I am not asking nor seeking your endorsement regarding our ministry. We will leave these things for God to decide. I am only interested in part of what is on your site, therefore this is why I asked your permissions regarding same.
As for other issues we (being our people) will seek God not man.
Please, dear brother - without doing things in love toward one another there remains a problem.
As you are also aware - no person or ministry holds all the truth - and that also includes you. Yes I do understand some things that have been revealed, but I have been seeking God on these matters. One step at a time dear brother. Please remember, it was I that contacted you, therefore I was not purposely hiding anything.
My heart is open before the Lord - and He knows it Darwin.
Yes, I admit there were some wrong typo's and appearances regarding the credit to the articles you permitted. But I have changed these things and should no longer remain a problem between us.
As for fellowship (we also do not take this lightly), I have asked the Lord for appropriate men to fellowship with - and I trust He will deliver.
But as regard to our ministry - we will continue to follow in the direction God leads us. Were you not at some stage deceived yourself in the past (and possibly still?)- well be thankful if you are no longer."
With all due respect, I appreciate your assistance but...
Thank you,
James.
From: "Darwin" darwin@atruechurch.info
To: "The GateKeeper Ministry" info@thegatekeeperministry.com
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Greetings from Ireland THE GATEKEEPER MINISTRY James Warnock
Well then, I retract what I have both said and written. You do not have our permission to post anything from our site.
From: "The GateKeeper Ministry" info@thegatekeeperministry.com
To: "Darwin" darwin@atruechurch.info
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: Greetings from Ireland THE GATEKEEPER MINISTRY James Warnock
Have we a man from God here ??
You give permission then you take it back?
You are false my friend, enjoy!
James.
Therefore the Lord God of Israel says: "I said indeed that your house and the house of your father would walk before Me forever." But now the Lord says: "Far be it from Me; for those who honor Me I will honor, and those who despise Me shall be lightly esteemed." (1 Samuel 2:30)
This man was appearing to consent to wholesome words. He had posted on his website several of our articles such as "You Think You're Saved, But You're Not!", "Unity of the Saints", "Marks of a Cult,"etc.. Yet, his email makes it obvious he does not believe what he had posted. Thus, 1 Timothy 6:3-5 applies to him
From: "The GateKeeper Ministry" info@thegatekeeperministry.com
To: "Darwin" darwin@atruechurch.info
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: Gen.18 false teaching
Dear Darwin,
You teach on Gen 18 that God was (3) ? How do you come to this conclusion when God's word tells it different? There were two angels with the Lord and the two angels left for Sodom, Abraham pleaded with the Lord (alone) according to scripture.
What you are teaching here is not scriptural!
James.
From: "The GateKeeper Ministry" info@thegatekeeperministry.com
To: "Darwin" darwin@atruechurch.info
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: Greetings from Ireland THE GATEKEEPER MINISTRY James Warnock
Sarah also referred to Abraham as Lord, my Lord... etc!
From: "The GateKeeper Ministry" info@thegatekeeperministry.com
To: "Darwin" darwin@atruechurch.info
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 6:16 PM
Subject: Gen. 18
My apologies, I have just grasped it!
Thanks be to God.
From: ofthetruthemail@aim.com
To: darwin@atruechurch.info
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 1:33 PM
Subject: blog
Interesting new on blog posts. That Mick Alexander is wicked for sure. His site also says,
"A person who suicides has certainly given up on life but has not necessarily given up on the Lord." (http://www.christianissues.biz/miscellaneous.html#sinlessperfection)
According to Mick, one who denies the Lord has not given up on Him. The site says,
"If it was clear that suicide victims go to hell then we would be bound to say so. However, it is not clear" (ibid.)
If we deny Him, He also will deny us. (2 Timothy 2:12) <----- sounds clear to me!
That other man who said "You are false my friend" still has your material available on his site. So, he says your false, yet he shares your material in a good light? Interesting hypocrisy. Reminds me of David J. Stewart who attempted to expose you, calls you "a voice for Satan" and "of the Devil", yet says of you,
"his work exposing MacArthur is excellent and as such I've posted it here for reference" (http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/macarthur_study_bible-heresy.htm)
From: ofthetruthemail@aim.com
To: darwin@atruechurch.info
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:29 AM
Subject: also
I checked that guys gatekeeper site. Not sure if you have seen, but he recently added the statement of faith on there. It's strange, he supposedly agrees that God is Gods, but he doesn't list who the Gods are. No seven Spirits, Horses, Jerusalem, etc.. He says "We are terrified of Jesus (Job 28:28)" but that is certainly not true for them (Proverbs 16:6). He also says,
"We believe masturbation is sinning against one’s body. (1 Corinthians 6:18)" (http://www.thegatekeeperministry.com/web_documents/statement_of_faith_gatekeeper_ministry_europe.pdf)
In other words: "We believe commandment of men (Matthew 15:9)". No proof listed of masturbation even being sexual immorality at all.
From: Darwin
To: ofthetruthemail@aim.com
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: also
Interesting. Thanks.
Look at this stupid statement he put in there:
"We believe smoking is not condemned in Scripture, but addiction is (1 Corinthians 6:12; Galatians 5:22-23). Therefore, smoking and addiction are both the same."
So, if a person has a cigarette once a week they are addicted. That's just dumb.
He also claims, "Anal Sex within a marriage:" is sin. But the Scripture he gives (Romans 1:24-27) speaks of homosexuality, not heterosexuality. He claims anal sex in marriage is an abomination. He obviously thinks nothing of adding to the Word (Proverbs 30:5-6). God needs to reveal it's an abomination for it to be true. I think anal sex is a gross concept, but it doesn't matter what we think (Psalm 94:11).
You might want to note the blog add on this guy.